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Fisika ennoo paratirisiaka shedia Greg...

File ra-qua se sighairo gia tin protasi sou gia sigkekrimeni protasi paratirisis. Nomizo oti parallila me ta epiheirimata prepei na proteinoume kai sigkekrimena shedia.

Oles oi proigoumenes parembaseis agapitoi filoi fernoun stin epifaneia to themeliodes erotima... Iparhei arage erasitehniki astronomia stin Ellada? Den ennoo na ballo kai pali diahorismo anamesa se stargazers kai erasitehnes afti i diafora einai mesa apo tis sizitiseis mas pistebo pia ena thema pou ehei kleisei. Iparhei erasitehniki astronomia se ena topio pou pia den ehei kammia shesi me afto pou ipirhe prin apo 10 i 20 hronia stin hora mas? Prin apo 10-20 hronia ipirhan apla 5-10 anthropoi oi opoioi itan makria apo tin koini thea kai oi opoioi eksaskousan tin eras. astr. ennoontas oti eihan ena paratirisiako antikeimeno to opoio eksaskousan sistimatika kai ekselisan tis ikanotites tous meletontas kai kanontas katagrafes. Oi ikanoteroi apo aftous ekanan ergasies oi opoies toulahiston se mia periptosi (Kos Kolobos apo Thessaloniki) ekanan katagrafes fainomenon oi opoies siniseferan ousiastika kai amesa stin astronomiki gnosi. Simera to topio einai poli diaforetiko, me ta hiliades pia tileskopia se heria idioton meta tin analipsi tis Meade stin Athina apo ton ko Nomiko kai tin antiprosopeia tis Vixen, tal, Apm, Celestron apo tin Aktistar stin Thessaloniki.Otan ena thema einai emporefsimo to mono pragma pou simainei einai oti iparhei rebma agoras. Diladi polloi endiaferomenoi. I eisagogi neon meson katagrafis (psifiaki eikona-CCD) kai oi efarmoges tis, ehoun metaferei pedia meleton ton epagelmation astronomon sta heria erasitehnon parallila omos ehoun dimiourgisei mia olokliri katigoria katohon tileskopion i opoia dipsaei apla na parashei mia eikona omorfi me eksoplismo tis takseos ton 4000+euro.Safos kai den einai katakriteo alla se enan horo opou to kata kefalin eisodima einai kata meso oro ena mikro pososto aftou tou mesou amerikanou einai san na agorazeis ena idiotiko Jet gia na pas ena taksidi 30 hiliometron kai monon. Episis oi silogoi pou droun aftin tin stigmi stin Ellada kai apokalountai sillogoi erasitehnon astronomon horis ousiastika na apodidoun ton oro pou epikalountai dimiourgoun mia anef proigoumenou sighisi i opoia itan ekdili sta post tou proigoumenou thematos. Me aftin tin ennoia thelo na sigharo ton omilo filon tis Astronomias tis Thessalonikis kai tous empnefstes tou dioti apedosan me entimotita ston titlo tous tin prooptiki tou omilou tous i tis dinatotites pou ipirhan. En katakleidi filoi mou iparhoun hiliades katohoi tileskopion aftin tin stigmi stin hora mas ligoi erasitehnes Astronomoi, polloi sillogoi filon tis Astronomias aksioprepeis kai sebastoi kathos apoteloun meeftiria erasitehnon Astronomon kai kanenas sillogos erasitehnon Astronomon. Ara san sillogiki drastiriotita den ifistatai i erasitehniki Astronomia stin Ellada. IakoBos N. Stellas.

File Suhail, o Thomas Cave eftiakse tin Cave optical, etaireia kataskebis katoptrikon sta 50s opou sigkentrose tous kaliterous erasitehnes tis epohis mazi tou. Ekei miithike o Parker kai alloi. Oso gia egrafi, ean den pliroseis sindromi tha prepei na ksereis oti den ifistatai kai tha eheis na akouseis polla. Ap'o,ti blepeis kaneis den sou apanta amesa an kai tha mporouse... Ean koitakseis aftin tin selida prosektika tha breis ton tropo gia tin epikoinonia pou theleis. Kali tihi...dude.

Agapite Suhail den nomizo oti to noima ton parembaseon mou itan na se protepso i na se apotrepso apo kati. Oi apofaseis anikoun se esena kathos den mporo na gnorizo tis anagkes kai tis apaitiseis sou. To thema einai oti otan kapoios rotaei kati eite afto afora tehnikes paratiriseis eite tehnika stoiheia kataskebon eite plirofories omadon ofeiloume osoi ehoume diamorfosei ena kritirio ton katastaseon na pliroforoume tous endiaferomenous gia na ehoun ola ta stoiheia. Den tha simfonousa me ton haraktirismo mal... an kai katalabaino oti ekfrazei tin pikra tou anthropou pou asholithike me poli agapi me kati kai oi simplegmatikoi thelisan na ton trabiksoun sto homa. I apantisi s'aftes tis periptoseis mikrotitas einai mia: Teleiopoiisi tis ergasias sou.Harika pou ematha oti asholithikes me kati me agapi kai nai pistebo sta PSONIA pou einai afosiomena sto orama tous to na se poun loipon psonara einai titlos timis. Alithia ti egine me afto to site? To deftero thema file mou pou afora ton anagkaio eksoplismo gia CCD kai anaferesai ston Parker eho na po ta eksis: O Parker ksekinise na paratiri optika ton planiti Ari sta fifties kathos eihe emplaki me tin omada tou Thomas Cave(you know tis Cave optical).Meta apo mia megali diakopi asholithike kai pali sta 80s kai stin sineheia prohorise stin fotografisi, tin teleiopoiise, kai to teleftaio stadio einai to CCD stis arhes ton 90s. Sigoura ehei lefta alla to thema mas edo einai ligo diaforetiko. Paratireis oti o Parker ehei mia istoria dekaetion opou stadiaka mohthise gia na ftasei edo pou blepoume. Isos den boithaei na bazoume tetoia protipa thelontas na ftasoume amesos ekei dioti tha odigithoume adikos se apogoitefsi. Akoma kai ean afti tin stigmi eihes 100.000$ gia eksoplismo,kai den amfibalo oti eisai talantouhos kai ergatikos, tha itheles toulahiston 10 years the least to reach such a peak. Antitheta mporeis na sigkentrothis se afto pou sou epitrepoun ta oikonomika sou kai na kaneis kati me agapi.Alloste afto einai to zitoumeno. Oso file mou gia ton omilo pou proteineis, toulahiston opos to ennoeis esi, theoritika einai poli kali idea, alla praktika einai anefikto kathos ena toso geniko periehomeno dimiourgei tromera problimata diahirisis kathos ehei para polla meli kai o monos tetoios tipos organosis einai mesa apo sponsores kai emporiki diaheirisi kathos apaitei shedon emisthous diaheiristes kai...i Astronomia pige peripato. Ego den stamatao na prospatho na metadoso tin empeiria pou eho apoktisei meta apo 12 hronia paratiriseon, me oso pio aplo tropo mporo gia na mporesoun na ofelithoun osoi to ehoun anagki. Elpizo na min ginomai kaourastikos alla pali se parapempo sta arthra mou sto astronomyandsky.com Oso gia tin Australia tha ithela na se sinodefso omos den nomizo oti mporo na diatheso ta hrimata. Safos kai to jnstellas@hotmail.com perimenei tin kat'idian epikoinonia. Iakobos N. Stellas

O Petros me kalipse apolita file suhail kathos kai ego ipirksa konta s'afton ton kiklo apo to 1992. I alithia einai oti den eho problima epi tou prosopikou, alla as skeftoume giati arage na ehei kapoios enan omilo pou epi hronia den ton thesmotheti eno diadidei to antitheto? Den sou kreibo oti kai ego eksapatithika kai eksedosa ergasies mou me to sigkekrimeno onoma perimenontas mina ton mina na papso na bgaino pseftis.Loipon otan den eisai episimos oi eleo Theou tou dithen doiikitikou simbouliou apla den ehoun ipohreoseis. Den anagkazontai apo kanena katastatiko na sebastoun tipota apolitos.Afto tha mou peis ti me endiaferei emena pou thelo apla na paro kapoies plirofories kai na sinantitho se ena bouno me allous? Isos ohi kai einai sebasto. Alla ektos tou oti (meta apo ta apeira perithoria pou dosame stin katastasi)einai anithiko, ean theliseis na kaneis kati elahista pio organomeno tha deis oti me mia skiodi organosi einai san na kinise se kinoumeni ammo. Afta ta katatheto ego pou ekana perissoteres apo 10 parousiaseis kai eksedosa pantote me dika mou eksoda 2 mikra biblia odigous kai diafora filadia kai me para poli douleia horis na ipologizo kostos i kopo. To apotelesma itan ohi apo ta prosopa alla apo tin sillogikotita, mizeria kai apnoia thanatou. To noima einai oti nai men theloume na ehoume proboli alla...horis ipohreoseis. Tora to giati kai poios pou kai pote, safos tha akouseis polla. Giati ego eiha akousei as poume oti kano astronomia gia na min peso sta drugs (i mikrotita) i oti parousiazo tis paratiriseis mou gia na kano ton magka. Kai eno fonazo oti sto site ehoun mpei oi ergasies aftes horis tin sigkatathesi mou,tha deis oti apo ta 7as poume MB ton pdf tou site ta 5i6 einai aftes. Prospioumenoi oti me theoroun melos, afou den ipirhe shedon tipote allo tis ehoun hosei ekei gia gemisoun ta kena. Den peirazei mou kanoun kai diafimisi. Idi apo aftin tin dimosiefsi eho brei 5 paratirites pou mou proskomizoun paratiriseis tis Afroditis aftin tin epohi. Iakobos N. Stellas taktiko melos tis British Astronomical Association PS: Afto den einai gia mouri, einai pros apofigi pareksigiseon.

File mou Suhail simfono apolita mazi sou ntropi mas se mia poli 4,5 ekatomirion to na min iparhei KANEIS episimos omilos. Oso gia tin entoni antiparathesi afti afora gegonota ta opoia einai epi tis ousias kai den aforoun kanena vitsio opos anefere kapoios. Safos otan kapoios den ehei biosei afta ta opoia anaferonatai dimiourgeitai lanthasmeni eikona. Ego eimai sistimatikos paratiritis kai nai epididomai se logistikou tipou sillogi dedomenon alla file mou einai o monos tropos gia tin sinthesi kai tin eksagogi simperasmaton kai meletis. Ego polakis akoma kai stin sigkekrimeni stili eho diakiriksi oti sebome apolita tous aplous hobbiistes kai blepo tis drastiriotites os simpliromatikes.Otan omos kathe enas apo emas arhisei na ehei apaitiseis epi tis ousias tote mporei na ehei mia ksekathari apopsi tou topiou, kai afto afora ton tropo me ton opoio sinteleite afti i organosi. E otan eksipiretei apla kai monon tin proboli prepei na legetai kathos etsi mporoun na min hasoun ton hrono tous kapoioi alloi. Ostoso o kathis kai o horos tou kai ola sebasta, i paraharaksi einai afti pou enohlei. Episis file papafili epikoinonise mazi mou sto jnstellas@hotmail.com me endiaferoun oi paratiriseis tou planiti Ari stis opoies eihes anaferthei se proigoumeno post. Aftes pou ekanes apo tin Kalithea tha hairomoun na antalaksoume empeiries... Filika, Iakobos N. Stellas, Taktiko melos tis British Astronomical Association (BAA)

Simfono apolitos me tous prolalisantes oson afora tou oti metraei to megethos kai kirios i poiotita. Bebaia i alithia einai oti ena SCT me megali empodisi kai me to problima tis metakinisis olou tou katoptrou gia tin estiasi meionei kapos tin iperohi tis diametrou. Ostoso SCTelescopes me megali empodisi as poume tis takseos ton 12" ehoun parashei merikes apo tis kaliteres eikones CCD planiton pagosmios. Afta apo enan latri ton dioptrikon tileskopion. Simfono omos oti hreiazetai na eisai epifilaktikos apenanti se dioptrika ta opoia einai ftina...Sigoura ego apo ena 8" Sct tha protimousa ena 8" achromatiko folded refractor alla monon o antikeimenikos kai ta defterebonta katoptra tha stoihizan kapou 3000$.Me ta idia hrimata loipon ena 12" newtonian tha itan protimotero.

Mporeis oso theleis na kribesai piso apo tous haraktirismous sou apo to tipota pros to tipota. Tora pou i koubenta eftase ston pirina apohoreis me ena taratatzoum...Kalitera alloste oudepote apantises epi tis ousias. I ousia fenetai oti baptizetai me tin ellipsi sobarotitas oi agourides stis opoies anaferthike o Petros, alla gia ola afta pou kene kai ponane...sigin ihthios. Ontos i siopi epi tis ousias einai apla digma kenotitas periehomenou kai kalo tha itan otan analambanoume ite apo agnoia ite apo anathesi tin ipostiriksi fainomenon pou den gnorizoume na paradehomaste toulahiston tin aneparkeia mas. Kai mia kai fenete ksekathara oti den gnorizeis ta tektenomena tou aniparktou pediou pou epikalise toulahiston anarotisou giati s'afinoun kai diasirese aftoi pou kinoun ta nimata piso apo esena.A ksehasa aftoi pote den tha antimetopisoun kata prosopo tin alithia. Tin douleia tous opos kai oles tis alles tha tis diekpereosoun i paratrehamenoi...As bgei opoios thigete na rotisei gia na akousei tin istoria kai tis dikis tou Zois. Kai tha tin akousei me gegonota kai dokoumenta. I siopi stin sigkekrimeni periptosi apotelei paradohi kai ohi dithen anoterotita.

Gia na gnorizo kapoia enosi afti tha prepei na ehei ta ehegia sto protodikeio athinon. Etsi loipon mia alithia i opoia stirizetai se ena psema einai PSEMA. Ena "psema" to opoio stirizetai stin ALITHIA einai ALITHIA. Nai eho enan sosia o opoios boithithike oso gia na ginei ekmetalefsimos kai na petahtei sta skoupidia...Enan sosia o opoios polemithike meta manias otan prospathise na proothisei tin ousiastiki ergasia, enan sosia o tou opoiou i ergasia ekdothike horis kan tin sigkatathesi tou apo ena sinothilebma atomon oi opoioi toulahiston otan to ekanan afto den eihan to dikaioma na paramithiazoun to panellinio oti ifistantai nomika. Kai ean akoma to kanoun tora distihos file mou o en logo sosias mou psithirise oti i "organosi" afti tha einai mia skia...tin opoia o sosias tin biose os ta mpounia. As afisoume loipon tis parles kai as deiksoume ti eimaste mesa apo tin ergasia tou o kathenas. Perimeno na do ohi hartes tou ouranou grammenous sto podi me greeklish, ta misa stoiheia sta ellinika ta alla misa agglika alla ergasia.Alla afti proipotheti enan tipo organosis i opoia den mporei na epitefhtei kato apo tis parouses sinthikes kathos ousiastika einai tis logikis tis issonos prospathias kai tis logikis ela more poios tha to dei. Ase pou i oli istoria eksipiretei tin paragogi dimosion sheseon kai gi'afto to ergo paei sta skoupidia. Afta dioti ta pragmata den prepei na paramenoun adiefkrinista. Se parapempo loipon sto astronomyandsky.com gia na kaneis kritiki epi tis ousias.

Simfono apolita filoi mou me ton petro. Teleiosan pia ta asinidita i sinidita psemata! Na kseroume otan apokaloume kati me ena onoma oti afto antapokrinetai stin pragmatikotita. Oso tha emfanizontai kaloboules i ohi asafeies kai ashetoi oroi, aftoi pou gnorizoun tha fernoun ta pragmata stin thesi tous kai o logos tous tha einai pirinos. Opoios loipon anoigetai sto pelagos kai to skari tou den to odigei i ousiastiki ergasia nai tou Hobby diladi den kserei i deksia ti poiei i aristera to skari tou tha bithizetai. Blepo Petro oti simfonoume se genikes grammes an kai den eho empeiria tis sigkekrimenis enosis stin opoia anafereste kathos gnorizo poli kala oti den iparhei kaneis thesmothetimenos omilos stin Athina mipos kai afto einai ipo sizitisi kai kano lathos? Pantos petro blepo oti simfonoume mipos tha eprepe na sinantithoume na ta poume kai apo konta?

Agapitoi filoi paratiro me endiaferon tin sizitisi sas kai ofeilo na prostheso oti to mono hasma pou paratiro stis apopseis sas einai o kodikas epikoinonias. Ena hasma to opoio mastizei tous astrofilous en Elladi edo kai poli kairo...To apotelesma einai enas mikros pirgos tis Babel kai oi sinakolouthes pareksigiseis anapofefktes. Otan leme optiki partirisi opos afti kathorizete apo tin pagkosmia empeiria, ennoume tin epistameni epoptia enos antikeimenou kai tin katagrafi ton dedomenon basei epistimonikis methodologias akomi kai ean afti ginetai apo idiotes mi epagelmaties hristes epistimonikon organon me kirio organo stin periptosi mas to tileskopio.Otan ehoume tin eikona as poume tou M81 se mia eksormisi, gia na to haroume kai monon horis katagrafes as poume basei methodologias oi opoies tha mas epetrepe na dierebnisoume tin iparksi enos super-nova px,den mporoume na milame gia paratirisi,horis afto na simainei oti kai afto den apotelei mia simantiki drastiriotita. Stin ousia bebaia den diaferei apo tin omorfia pou mporei na mas harisei stin kaliteri periptosi ena omorfo fisiko topio,stin heiroteri periptosi ena tileoptiko spotaki. Min pareksigisete tis theseis mou den meiono tin simasia aftou tou eidous enasholisis apla pistebo oti pia oi hristes tileskopion prepei na arhisoun na ehoun kritirio, na gnorizoun tou ti kanoun gia na mporesoun kai oi stargazers tous opoious sebomai kai oi erasitehnes astronomoi na bionoun o enas ton allon san simpliromatikes drastiriotites kai ohi san antagonistikes.Oi stargazers ton opoion oi perissoteroi ehoun mia aristoi gnosi tou ouranou me tis eksormiseis tous oi opoies analonontai sto na doun ean o M51 einai stin thesi tou gia hiliosti fora, proselkioun nea atoma ta opoia stin poreia isos metalassontai se erasitehnes astronomous. Epiteloun loipon simantiko ergo.I megali pligi stin Ellada einai isos kapoioi oi opoioi ekmetalebontai ton enthousiasmo neon paidion (pros idion ofelos dimosion sheseon) kai tous fortonoun to mialo me orous oi oipoioi den efstathoun me apotelesma na dimiourgeitai afti i Babel i opoia proanefera. Ehete tin bebaiotita filoi mou oti aftoi pou kaliergoun aftin tin antipalotita einai ousiastika ehthroi tis astronomias tin opoia antilambanonai eite san "fan"(aksiosebastoi star-gazers) eite san erasitehnes astronomoi(sistimatiki katagrafi dedomenon basei epistimonikis methodologias). Episis tha ithela na po ston filo rama oti einai mithos(o opoios kaliergeitai polles fores apo aftous pou fotografisa molis prin)to oti diladi gia na asholitheis me kati allo ektos tou na koitas...hreiazetai hronos, hrima giati os pros to endiaferon simfono an kai prepei parallila na brethis kai sto periballon to opoio tha se ipostiriksei stin ousia na kaneis kati tetoio kai apo aftin tin apopsi den iparhei mehri stigmis tipote stin Ellada kai theto aftin mou tin apopsi stin Basano tis kritikis. Oso gia hrima den einai apolito...katagrafes metabliton mporoun na ginoun kai me ena zebgrari kialia.Oso gia ton hrono? Ena sosta organomeno paratirisiako shedio mporei na diarkei monon mia ora tin imera.Ean file rama to problima tou hronou kai tou hrimatos sou protathike apo erasitehni astronomo, tote arhise na amfibaleis ean einai afto pou pragmatika sou leei oti einai, ean sou protahtike apo star-gazer tote safos kai aftos ehei apoprosanatolisti. Oson afora tora gia ton filo pou rotise ean prepei kai pos na egrafei.Ean file mou zitas apla koinoniki sinanastrofi kai star-gazing tha to breis se opoion omilo kai na strafeis aftin tin stigmi stin Ellada.Ean zitas omos sistmatiki astronomiki paratirisi kai katagrafi dedomenon afto pou i pagosmia empeiria onomazei erasitehniki astronomia lipamai pros to paron den tha to breis pouthena! To thema omos afora esena kai kirios min pistebeis kanenan afto pou tha sou proteina tha itan na deis me kritiko pnebma kathe ti kai apofasise, alloste o kathenas apo emas dimiourgei to periballon pou ekfrazei tin ebritita tis antilipsis tou kai en telei tou aksizei. Afta en astronomia adelfoi mou, efhomai na sinebala esto kai sto elahisto sto gkremisma tou pirgou tis astronomikis babel o opoios blepo na thrimatizetai grigora.

Agapitoi filoi thigete ena poli endiaferon thema. Den eimai eidikos epi ton psifiakon kathos asholoumai me tin optiki paratirisi ton planiton, ostoso afto pou mporo na katatheso me bebaiotita einai oti oi psifiakes kameres tou tipou cool-pix kai loipa mporei na ehoun entiposiaka apotelesmata se shesi me tis SLR kathos eheis mikrous hronous ekthesis alla ta apotelesmata tous einai ahrista stin astronomia kathos eheis men mia omorfi eikona px tou Dia i you Kronou alla den einai metrisimes horis diladi peretero aksia ean o skopos sou einai i katagrafi dedomenon me aksioseis tou na hrisimopiithoun gia kati hrisimo epistimonika. Mporo omos na po ston Petro Georgopoulo o opoios einai eidikos stin psifiaki eikona na sou apantisei. Episis epeidi o horos tou foroum pou anaferthike o filos Papafilis gia kapoies paratiriseis tou Ari, ehei gemisei ton parakalo na mou pei tis empeiries tou apo aftes tis paratiriseis sto jnstellas@hotmail.com Afta filoi mou, elpizo na boithisa ligo...

File mou Kosta hairomai gia ton problimatismo pou bazeis kathos to problima einai afto. Pos diladi tha energopoiithoun oi katohoi tileskopion opou fisika einai statistika logiko oi perissoteroi na zoun se megales poleis...Den mporo na sinisfero sto sigkekrimeno erotima kathos asholoume apoklistika me tin paratirisi planiton ena eidos paratiriseis pou ginetai anempodista apo tis megales poleis. Epetrepse mou me aftin tin Efkairia na anakoinoso sto koino pou diabazei aftin tin stili tin enarksi enos paratirisiakou programmatos gia katoikous megalon poleon kai ohi monon pou mporei na ginei me akomi kai 7,5ekatosta dioptrika tileskopia kai 11,5 ekatosta katoptrika. Afto to programma perilambanei paratiriseis tis atmosfairas tou planiti Afroditi kai gi'afton ton logo eho ekdosei ena arthro mou sto site astronomyandsky.com Osoi endiaferontai na simetashoun apo tora kai mehri ton erhomeno Oktobrio, mporoun na paroun mia idea apo to arthro,kai stin sineheia na epikoinonisoun mazi mou sto jnstellas@hotmail.com Kai pali mprabo giati thetis ipo sizitisi ena kairio thema.

File giorgo tha hairomoun na matho tis empeiries sou apo tin teleftaia gitniasi tou planiti Ari apo tin kalithea, kathos katagrafo sistimatika tin epifaneia kai atmosfaira tou apo to 1995. Filika Iakobos.