Εγγραφή σε Ελληνική Αστρονομική Ένωση

File Suhail,

Katarxas exeis dikio nai ego eimai ontos autos pou anafereis, oloi kseroun poios eimai den to exo mystiko! Apla exeis xasei episodio me to rama se proigoumeno post mou. Ekei edyna kai to email pou anafereis, opote ekseplagein pos kapoios pou to diabase einai dynaton na me syndese me ton en elogo syllogo(des to post me titlo Paratiriseis)... Alla profanos den to exeis diabasei, opote sou zito sygnomi, se pareksigisa!

Safestata den apolambano tetoiou eidous syzitisi, den einai dimiourgiki, alla otan kapoios synexizei na ypostirizei ena psema kapoios prepei epitelous na balei ta pragmata stin thesi tous!

Katarxas o en logo syllogos an kai ton ksekinisame me kalles proipotheseis (kai opos les kai esi me skopo sobares paratiriseis -an kai ego pote den eimoun yper "austiron kritirion eisagogis" giati eksipiretoun mono entyposeis), pote den egine episimos (para tis polyarithmes idritikes synantiseis) synepos i egrafi sou ekei einai katarxas adynati! Epipleon stin poreia diapistosa oti kai ta peri sobaron paratiriseon pou legame arxika itan logia tou area... Malista kai oi synantiseis (pote omos se kanonika diastimata) tou omilou eixan katantisei koinonikes ekdiloseis, me ena pseutiko typiko syllogou, opou ektos apo kana-dio dialekseis, ousistika den syzitiotan kan astronomia!

To teuxos tou ouranou pou eides bgike anti praktikon gia to 1o Panellinio Synedrio Erasitexnikis Astronomias to opoio egine to 1999. H enosi profanos den itan oute tote episismi kai malista paratirise oti o ekdotis tou Ouranou exei grapsei authaireta (alla kalista exei to dikaioma afou kai o syllogos den yparxei) "Elliniki Astronomiki Enosi Athinon". Kanonika afou o syllogos den yparxei den tha eprepe na anaferthei tipota...

Kai gia na ksekathariso ti thesi mou, emena den me peirazei akoma kai atypos na einai o syllogos arkei auto na dieukrinizetai (to eides pouthena sto page tous? Den dinei tin pseudi entyposi oti einai pragmatikos syllogos?)! Episis kai to poies einai oi drastiriotites prepei na dieukrinizetai! Pragmatika den mporo na katalabo ti eksypiretei na syntiritai ena psema. Afou to pragma to blepoun ontos kathara xompistes (megia tous me xara tous) giati na min to lene? Kako einai? Mipos den einai oi idioi euxaristimenoi me ton eauto tous??

Dystixos se auti ti xora exoume synithisei na eimaste oti dilonoume oxi na dilonoume oti eimaste... Elpizo na sou ksekatharisa to topio!

Tora i astronomia gia kapoious einai apla ena hobby, gia kapoious allous omos einai kati parapano! Ego prosopika den exo kanena apoloitos problima me ton aplo xompista or star-gazer (or astrofotografo) an protimas, xairomai na milao mazi tou kai arketes fores malista tha to paikso kai ego touristas tou diastimatos! Ostoso prosekse oti kai i sobari paratirisi, an kai se proti fasi fainetai kourastiki, agkaria kai safos oxi fun, den einai etsi omos, apla kaneis xreiazetai bathiteri gnosi gia na to ektimisei... i xara einai allis morfis kai erxetai otan i douleia sou exei apodosei! (eno safos mporeis na exeis tin xara oti kai esi bazeis ena litharaki).

Gia tin Australia, to mono pou mporo na po einai oti poly tha ithela na erxomoun mazi sou (nai apla gia na thaumaso ta thaumata tou Notiou Ouranou)!

Petros

O Petros me kalipse apolita file suhail kathos kai ego ipirksa konta s'afton ton kiklo apo to 1992.

I alithia einai oti den eho problima epi tou prosopikou, alla as skeftoume giati arage na ehei kapoios enan omilo pou epi hronia den ton thesmotheti eno diadidei to antitheto? Den sou kreibo oti kai ego eksapatithika kai eksedosa ergasies mou me to sigkekrimeno onoma perimenontas mina ton mina na papso na bgaino pseftis.Loipon otan den eisai episimos oi eleo Theou tou dithen doiikitikou simbouliou apla den ehoun ipohreoseis.

Den anagkazontai apo kanena katastatiko na sebastoun tipota apolitos.Afto tha mou peis ti me endiaferei emena pou thelo apla na paro kapoies plirofories kai na sinantitho se ena bouno me allous? Isos ohi kai einai sebasto. Alla ektos tou

oti (meta apo ta apeira perithoria pou dosame stin katastasi)einai anithiko, ean theliseis na kaneis kati elahista pio organomeno tha deis oti me mia skiodi organosi einai san na kinise se kinoumeni ammo. Afta ta katatheto ego pou ekana perissoteres apo 10 parousiaseis kai eksedosa pantote me dika mou eksoda 2 mikra biblia odigous kai diafora filadia kai me para poli douleia horis na ipologizo kostos i kopo. To apotelesma itan ohi apo ta prosopa alla apo tin sillogikotita, mizeria

kai apnoia thanatou. To noima einai oti nai men theloume na ehoume proboli alla...horis ipohreoseis. Tora to giati kai poios pou kai pote,

safos tha akouseis polla. Giati ego eiha akousei as poume oti kano astronomia gia na min peso sta drugs (i mikrotita) i oti parousiazo tis paratiriseis mou gia na kano ton magka.

Kai eno fonazo oti sto site ehoun mpei oi ergasies

aftes horis tin sigkatathesi mou,tha deis oti apo ta 7as poume MB ton pdf tou site ta 5i6 einai aftes. Prospioumenoi oti me theoroun melos, afou den ipirhe shedon tipote allo tis ehoun hosei ekei

gia gemisoun ta kena. Den peirazei mou kanoun kai diafimisi. Idi apo aftin tin dimosiefsi

eho brei 5 paratirites pou mou proskomizoun paratiriseis tis Afroditis aftin tin epohi.

Iakobos N. Stellas

taktiko melos tis British Astronomical Association

PS: Afto den einai gia mouri, einai pros apofigi pareksigiseon.

Hi guys

koita re ti mathaineis...kai, re paidia, epeidi mou faineste mallon endaksei atoma, oste de leei na prospathiso na grafto melos ekei? Loipon, tora oson afora auta pou eipate eho na po ta eksis:

Re nefelegeretis (whatever...), shetika me ta drugs kai tin "magia" pou aneferes, eho na sou po ena pragma: panda yparhoun MALAKES (sorry) anthropoi. Re, edo sou leo pro triminou eiha ftiaksei ena site se Flash kai, sto forum tou site, ypirhan atoma pou me evrizan kai me elegan lamer epeidi eftiaksa to site se Flash kai ohi se HTML...profanos oi typoi, flash den eihan piasei sta heria tous, kai, mias kai eidan to site effedzifdiko, a, sou leei, eukola to eftiakse o M@$@#@$@. Otan de piga na tous eksigiso to posa maths hreiastike gia na ftiahtei auto (kala, ohi kai tromera, alla se shesi me koina HTMLathika, to na hrisimopoieis dianysmatika ginomena einai poli...) me eipan kai psonara! Ti na pei kaneis stous malakes! Pandos, oson afora tin diki sou parousiasi sto proto synedrio erasitehnikis astronomias pou eida ston ourano, oute gia lameri fainesai oute gia atomo pou paei gia drugs. Fuck'em all! (sorry, alla ta pira...) Tora, peter_ccd (kala, e, to kollima einai kollima) oute ego eho tipote me tin systimatiki katagrafi dedomenon, pisteuo omos (de leo, isos na kano lathos...) oti gia na tin kaneis theleis POLLA euros (eida to post sou "paratiriseis"...o Don Parker einai retired anaisthesiologist. Ksereis posa pairnei enas giatros sto U.S? O typos ehei dyo Meade LXD200 16" kai state-of-the-art CCD's kai loipa...ego prepei na pouliso to spiti mou gia na paro auta, kai min nomiseis oti epeidi boro na pao australia eho kai lefta (auto einai mia alli istoria...). Kala, mandevo na mou peis, boreis na to kaneis kai hpris fraga. Pos re file (horis diathesi pareksigisis...). OK, esy ftiahneis CCD cameres monos sou... Ilektrologous Mihanikous kai mihanikous ypologiston sto EMP eheis teleiosei i kati tetoio? Ego den bika akomi! (e, re, mi mou peis oti asholeisai me ilektronika aplos apo hobby, giati den einai lameria to na ftiahneis CCD camera monos sou!).

Pandos, mages, an kapoios endiaferetai sovara gia tin Australia, as mou grapsei sto atticskies@hotmail.com (oh yeah, o attikos ouranos, pou, gia na ton deis, prepei na pas stin evoia!). A, kai kati allo. Oute ego eimai yper ton snobaria syllogon. Kai, epeidi vlepo polla sovara (peter_ccd, nefelegeretis) atoma "ektos" tou syllogou autou, eho na diatyposo mia trelli idea: re, ftiahnoume enan syllogo stin Athina emeis? Pou, na min einai apo tin mia tou styl "who's the master of the deck 'ere" alla kai na min einai teleios kseneroto! Enas syllogos pou tha dehetai akoma kai autous pou den kseroun tipote apo astronomia kai aplos theloun na mathoun (etsi den ksekinisame oloi???). Giati, min ksehnate, ehoume anagi to na asholeitai polys kosmos me to hobby, esto kai epeifaniaka kai epeidi to theorei "trendy" dioti, mono etsi tha peistei o mesos anthropos na min pigainei sta kits club pou xrisimopoion provoleis kai desmes fotos gia na proselkyoun kosmo (milame gia TO spasimo--akoma kai ston platamona yparhoun dyo tetoia kai viazoun ton otherwise semi-perfect ourano), kai genika na peisoume tin politeia na lavei energa metra kata tis fotorrypansis etsi oste na kanoume kai oi pio "poromenoi" to hobby mas (i, whatever we call it, kai emena mou ti spaei na theoro tin astronomia hobby, efamillo me to shopping, to clubbing kai alles m$%@#), opos ehei ginei stin australia, stin iaponia kai stin italia.

A, kai kati allo. An thelete na milisoume gia ena apo ta dyo themata pou anefera peretairo (Australia i syllogos), grapste sto e-mail mou, i, kalitera, anoikste ksehoristo post sto forum. Se kathe periptosi, parakalo na me eidopoiiseter mesa apo auto to entry.

Opos panda, keep observing!

Agapite Suhail den nomizo oti to noima ton parembaseon mou itan na se protepso i na se apotrepso apo kati. Oi apofaseis anikoun se esena

kathos den mporo na gnorizo tis anagkes kai tis apaitiseis sou. To thema einai oti otan kapoios rotaei kati eite afto afora tehnikes paratiriseis eite tehnika stoiheia kataskebon eite plirofories omadon ofeiloume osoi ehoume diamorfosei ena kritirio ton katastaseon na pliroforoume tous endiaferomenous gia na ehoun ola ta stoiheia.

Den tha simfonousa me ton haraktirismo mal... an kai katalabaino oti ekfrazei tin pikra tou anthropou pou asholithike me poli agapi me kati kai oi simplegmatikoi thelisan na ton trabiksoun sto homa. I apantisi s'aftes tis periptoseis mikrotitas einai mia: Teleiopoiisi tis ergasias sou.Harika pou ematha oti asholithikes me kati me agapi kai nai pistebo sta PSONIA pou einai

afosiomena sto orama tous to na se poun loipon psonara einai titlos timis. Alithia ti egine me afto to site?

To deftero thema file mou pou afora ton anagkaio eksoplismo gia CCD kai anaferesai ston Parker eho na po ta eksis: O Parker ksekinise na paratiri optika ton planiti Ari sta fifties kathos eihe emplaki me tin omada tou Thomas Cave(you know

tis Cave optical).Meta apo mia megali diakopi asholithike kai pali sta 80s kai stin sineheia prohorise stin fotografisi, tin teleiopoiise, kai to teleftaio stadio einai to CCD stis arhes ton 90s. Sigoura ehei lefta alla to thema mas edo einai ligo diaforetiko. Paratireis oti o Parker ehei mia istoria dekaetion opou stadiaka mohthise gia na ftasei edo pou blepoume. Isos den boithaei na bazoume tetoia protipa thelontas na ftasoume amesos ekei dioti tha odigithoume adikos se apogoitefsi. Akoma kai ean afti tin stigmi eihes 100.000$ gia eksoplismo,kai den amfibalo oti eisai

talantouhos kai ergatikos, tha itheles toulahiston

10 years the least to reach such a peak. Antitheta

mporeis na sigkentrothis se afto pou sou epitrepoun ta oikonomika sou kai na kaneis kati me agapi.Alloste afto einai to zitoumeno.

Oso file mou gia ton omilo pou proteineis, toulahiston opos to ennoeis esi, theoritika einai poli kali idea, alla praktika einai anefikto kathos ena toso geniko periehomeno dimiourgei tromera problimata diahirisis kathos ehei para polla meli kai o monos tetoios tipos organosis einai mesa apo sponsores kai emporiki diaheirisi kathos apaitei shedon emisthous diaheiristes kai...i Astronomia pige peripato.

Ego den stamatao na prospatho na metadoso tin empeiria pou eho apoktisei meta apo 12 hronia paratiriseon, me oso pio aplo tropo mporo gia na mporesoun na ofelithoun osoi to ehoun anagki. Elpizo na min ginomai kaourastikos alla pali se parapempo sta arthra mou sto astronomyandsky.com

Oso gia tin Australia tha ithela na se sinodefso omos den nomizo oti mporo na diatheso ta hrimata.

Safos kai to jnstellas@hotmail.com perimenei tin kat'idian epikoinonia.

Iakobos N. Stellas

File Suhail, o Thomas Cave eftiakse tin Cave optical, etaireia kataskebis katoptrikon sta 50s opou sigkentrose tous kaliterous erasitehnes tis epohis mazi tou. Ekei miithike o Parker kai alloi.

Oso gia egrafi, ean den pliroseis sindromi tha prepei na ksereis oti den ifistatai kai tha eheis na akouseis polla. Ap'o,ti blepeis kaneis den sou apanta amesa an kai tha mporouse...

Ean koitakseis aftin tin selida prosektika tha breis ton tropo gia tin epikoinonia pou theleis.

Kali tihi...dude.

Hi again dudes...

Iakove, to site auto einai sto URL: http://www.haef.gr/greek/panigiri

Opos isis tha diapistoseis, thelei update, alla ego den tha to kano giati i istoria auti me to site me pikrane arketa (fandasou oti, opos isos diapistoseis kai sto forum, oti enas apo tous symergates mou strafike enandion mou...kala, den itan kai oi apandiseis pou edosa ego ekei oi kalyteres, alla pisteuo oti katalavaineis giati einai opos einai, an kai, kata vathos,tha eprepe na drepomai gi'autes).

Oson afora ton Parker, tin istoria me to Cave Optical den tin ksero, gi'auto, please, clarify! A, kai kati allo, pou mallon afora olous: THA MOU PEI POTE KANENA MELOS TIS ELLINIKHS ASTRONOMIKHS ENOSIS POS BORO NA EPIKOINONISO MAZI TOUS???

Auta, pros to paron...

Gia pollosti fora, keep observing!