Hi Everyone, This is my first time posting here and given what happened to Frank, I'll hold off on using the babelfish random word generator. Many many thanks for your generosity at Mt Parnon, it was something else, there is a 20 page thread on the IFAS boards about it http://www.irishastronomy.org/boards/viewtopic.php?t=8370&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=225 Page 16 onwards are comments put in after we had come back form Greece. Kostas, that was me you met at the far end of field, like you I tried some wide angle shots, I'll scan them in for you to view, however been a film camera they are not quite as good as what you captured. While imaging, I had left the camera on its own with no red light, when I went back to the camera after my timer had finished, I wasn't able to find the thing!, after about 10 minutes of searching I finally found it for some reason I thought I had left it much nearer to the cars then I had done. Anyway, it was certainly an experience for us, never having been the Greece before. Isn't it amazing that people from the far ends of the EU can think the exact same way about astronomy, it's like it instantly breaks down barriers between people.