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Παιδιά χαίρομαι πάρα πολύ που για κάποιο λόγο πλέον μπορώ και γράφω ελληνικά. Εγώ δεν έκανα τίποτα οπότε φαντάζομαι τα παιδιά του astrovox έκαναν κάτι Όσοι δεν μπορούσατε να γράψετε στα ελληνικά, σαν και εμένα δοκιμάστε το...

tha elega thn 4 me c8 apo sxetika skoteino ourano.

Xthes meta apo polles meres me aera kai xwris parathrhsh evgala to thleskopio kai xekinisa me parathrhsh tou fegariou me enan 20ari viewfinder otan gia prwti fora eida na pernaei ena aeroplano. Tha prepei na pw oti h eikona htan fantastikh.... prwth mou fora vlepeis kai tha prepei na omologisw oti aistanthika polu tyxeros... krima pou den eixa fwtografikh epanw kai na trabaga ekeini thn stigmh...

kata thn dikh mou gnwmh einai h paidia auth pou tha prepei na dwsei to erethisma gia na mporesoun argotera ta paidia na paroun auton ton sporo kai na ton kaliergisoun. Egw thymamai apo pitsirikas pou me endiefere o ouranos kai mono se vivliothih tou dhmou mporousa na paw na diavasw gia thn astronomia. Den eixa pouthena allou na parw plhrofories. kai bebaia argotera kourastika kai ta parthsa giati akomh kai oi parees mou den eixan to erethisma na asxolithoun. Ean omws tote yphrxe ena astrovox h kapoioi sylogoi oi opoioi tha mporousan na mou dwsoun plhrofories gia tin astronomia tha eixa synexisei. Nai pisteuw oti h astronomia sta sxoleia apla prepei na deinei to erethisma sta paidia mias kai pragmatika pisteuw kai egw oti einai outopiko na pisteuoume oti mporei na dwsei swstes baseis me ta tosa problimata pou exei kai oi energitikoi sylogoi na proothoun thn idea ths astronomias parapera. Oi sylogoi tha mporousan mesw tou ypourgeiou na kanoun mikra seminaria sta sxoleia h kai akomh astroparty gia sxoleia syndiasmena me mia dyhmerh ekdromh p.x se kapoio asteroskopoio h akomh kai kataskhnwseis me astronomikes bradies. Exoun to kouragio oi gnwstes tou antikeimenou na kanoun kati tepoio?

thanasi sorry alla den eixa dei to post sou. Tha symfwnisw me ton stefano oti ta 8x56 ultima einai mia apo tis kalyteres agores poy tha mporouses na kaneis. Egw thn exw kanei kai omologw oti eimai apolyta euxaristimenos... toso pou phra kai ta 9x63 ultima ta 8x42 pou brikes den akougontai asxhma alla na ksereis oti oso megalyteri diametro toso kalytera. (sou eipa eixa ta 8x56 kai phra kai ta 9x63 ) To baros tous episeis einai ikanopoihtiko...

sabba se genikes grammes kalytera gia parathrhseis planitwn - feggariou einai ta dioptrika, apoxrwmatiko dioptriko akomh kalytera. Gia vathi ourano na ksereis megalyterh diametro =megaliterh posostita fwtos pou mpainei sto thleskopio = fainontai pio amydra antikeimena. tha prepi omws na laveis yp'opsin sou oti oso megalyterh diametro toso pio varh kai ogkodes to thleskopoio. To skeptiko me ena smparo dyo trygonia epetrepse mou na sou pw oti egw proswpika den to uothetw. Protimw to kathe organo, antikeimeno pou pernw na einai gia thn douleia pou to thelw. ean einai kataskeuasmeno kati gia poles xrhseis tote den tha kanei tipota kala alla ligo apo ola... vlepe ta autokinita suv (eleutherou xronou) den einai oute autokinhta me epidwseis sto xwma alla oute kai autokinita me epidwseis sthn asfalto pas omws kai erxese sthn douleia sou me to analogo kostos.... apo thn mia dyladh tha kapseis poly benzini giati to 4x4 kaiei perissoterh venzinh apo ena antistixo symbatiko perissotera xrhmata gia servise ws epi to pleistwn kai apo thn allh tha pas ston xwmatodromo san kota gia na mhn sou skorpisei... (h na mhn sou skonistei)

tha symfonisw me tous prolalisantes. Den yparxei kanenas logos na pareis thleskopoio gia na kaneis epigeia parathrhsh h fwtografish. yparxoun eksidikeumena proionta gia tis sygekrimenes drastiriotites. Yparxoun ekseretikes dioptres gia epigeia parathrhsh kathos kai ekseretikoi thlefakoi gia fwtografish. Twra ean theleis gia na ksekishseis parathrhsh tou ouranou ekeino pou xreiazesai einai ena kalo eisagogiko vivlio ,opws to night watch tou dikinson, ena zeugari kialia kai poly ypomoni kai thelish na matheis ton ourano kai ta stolidia tou.... diavase polu prin apofasiseis na pareis thleskopoio den yparxei logos na ksodeveis xrhmata xwris na gnwrizeis pragmatika ean to theleis h ean sou aresei... phgaine se astroparty,des mesa apo thleskopia kai meta apofasise....

thanasi efoson ta theleis gia xeri tote tha prepei h megenthisnsi na mhn ksepernaei to 10x (etsi lene) gia mena akomh kai to 9x63 einai oriaka.. sto xeri apolambanw ta 8x56.

Thanasi poia einai h prositi timh gia sena? tha ta taxideueis syxna h mono gia tis diakopes? poso forita theleis na einai? ta 8x56 vixen ultima pou exw egw einai fovera san apodosh kialiwn kai ekseretika taxidiarika (ta exw panta mazi mou akomh kai an taxideuw me thn motosykleta h exwteriko). exw parei kai ta celestron ta 9x63 ultima (ta opoia einai idia me ta vixen) ligo pio baria kai nomizw oti auth h mikri auksisi diametrou tou fakou na mhn axizei to parapanisio varos, se periptwsh pou ta theleis pragmatika taxidiarika. ean ta theleis opws les etsi mono gia tis diakopes na se syntrofeuoun pare 9x63 xwris amfivolia (tha xreiasteis tripodi gia poles wres parathrhsewn) me ta 8x mporeis na exeis arketh wra parathrhshs sto xeri xwris problhma. Ta optika kai twn dyo zeugwn einai exairetika (multicoated, bak4). tis times mporeis na tis vreis kai sta dyo katastimata stin thessalonikh www.aktistar.gr kai www.astronomy.gr gia pio oikonomika ta 7x50 tis bushnell einai episeis kala ean den kanw lathos ta 9x63 exoun peripou sta 350 eurw kai ta buschnell peripou sta 150 eurw. Meta mporeis na deis kai ta 25x100 tis celestron ta opoia einai men sxetika oikonomika alla sigoura den exoun tin eueliksia pou exoun ta mikrotera mias kai xreiazesai tripodi gia na kaneis parathrhsh. Auta einai kialia ta opoia exw dokimasei kai mporw na sou pw. fantazomai oti tha paizoun polla akomh opws cannon kai nikon se kalh poiotita den ta gnwrizw omws prwsopika. ante kalo kalokairi kai kales diakopes.. alhtheia pou tha pas ?

Christo skeftomoun kai egw gia ta C 25x100 argotera. pws sou fainontai? exeis dei mesa apo alla kialia? opws ta ultima 8x56 h 9x63? h kati antoistixo se optika?

VIXEN 114 CELESTRON 8 f/5 enalasonte epanw stin GPE tis VIXEN eyepieses 20 celestron 10 12 vixen 5 nextar ploss barlow 2x celestron filtra 4 xromatista gia planites kai UHC gia nefelomata ena hliako filtro gia to 114 Kialia 9x63 celestron ultima 8x56 vixen ultima (ta pernw panta mazi mou se taxidia) fwtografiko tripodi gia ta kialia (manfroto 055) Ti tha ithela thelw na parw kala eyepieces kai na dwsw auta pou exw (televue fisika ...as einai kai nagler ) Episeis ena 12' h 14' dobsonian (orion optics fysika )

ah mhna kai egw to idio den exw kan tv sto spiti giati... exw pikran peira kai proswpika me tous ''dimisiografous'' h mallon me autous pou theloun na apokalounte dimosiaografoi. kai egw exw mono ena transistor akribws gai tous idious logous... Na ftiaksoume omada etoimh gia ''antartiko''

twra thymithika oti esy exeis ta 9x63 pws sou fainontai? sto xeri phgainoun? kata ta alla einai sxedon idia apo epistrwseis k.l.p. exeis dei/dokimasei ta 8x56? apla gia na mou peis ean ta exeis sygkrinei amesa...

ta vixen 8x56 allwte panw se tripodi kai allwte sto xeri. ta exw panta mazi mou akomh kai sto exwteriko pou paw. skeft;wmoun na parw ta 9x63 vixen/celestron na sou pw thn alhtheia all akomh den to exw apofasisei...giati den kserw ean einai toso eukola sto xeri...einai sxedon 100 gr pio baria kai den kserw kata poso tha me boleuei sta taxidia...

ha ha ha apistefto this guy!!!! Gelaw re paidia alla tha eprepe na klaiw blepontas pioi mas enhmerwnoun.... Mhpws tha eprepe na dwsoume thn dieuthinsh tou astrovox se auton ton asxeto mpas kai enhmerwthei kai na tou poume basika oti ean thelei na enhmerwnei swsta ton kosmo, mias kai auth einai h douleia tou, na mathenei ekeinos prwta swsta..? na tou poume dhladh pia einai h douleia tou giati de nomizw na egrafe sto anexighto h se periodiko epistimonimkhs fantasias....

Tis teleutes meres fisaei poly aeras edw sthn paro kai etsi den shkwnei na bgalw to thleskopio gia parathrhsh (eimai apo autous tous tyxerous pou apla bgazoun to thleskopoio ston khpo tous kai parathroun se arketa skoteinous ouranous ), etsi kathomai estw kai gia ligo me ta kyalia kai xazeuw kanontas star hoping. m4, to kosmima tou scorpiou m6 m7 m20 dipla asteria ,kai kai kai ..... Skeftwmenos, oti ean telika eperna to go to, opws sthn arxh elega, twra den tha apolambana toso eukola kai grhgora, toso omorfa stolidia giati to poio pithano einai oti den tha eiksera ton ourano. Nai ton ourano ton ematha me ta kialia kai xartes... einai apisteuto to posa polla dso mporei na dei kaneis me ta kialia. Stin arxh nomisa oti epidei tha gyrnaw kourasmenos apo thn douleia den tha exw poly xrono na bgazw to thleskopio kai na kanw star hoping opote h lysh htan ena go to. Diavazontas tis empeiries twn paliwn sto astrovox sygratithika kai den ekana thn agora pou skeftwmoun me go to kai eimai eutyxismenos giauthn mou thn apofash... EMATHA TON OURANO me enan xarth kai ena zeugari kialia, kai gia na pw thn alhtheia mou perissotero xreisimopoiw ta kialia mou para to thleskopio mou... logw logo kairikwn synthikwn bebaia giati opote exei apnies kai den exei fegari me briskoun ta xaramata panw sto thleskopoio

Michali kaloriziko elpizw kai egw syntoma na mpw sto club twn orion he he he he...

file strato. Logika auth h lavi einai kai sfigktiras,statheropoihths tou tileskopoiou sou. Twra gia to paixnidi me tis vides ... hmmmm. to ligotero pou tha xreiasteis einai euthigramish katoptrwn.....

Marino poia einai h dieuthinsh tou eleftheroudaki?

thanks antoni ante siga siga kai egw na mpw sto club twn astrofwtografwn... me exei eksitarei to gegonos alla thelw na mazepsw polles plhrofories gia na ksekinisw swsta.... sas euxaristw polu paidia

stefane opws panta... anektimhth h bohthia sou... thanks

eida oti h aktis exei dyo kainourgies ccd thn atic 16 kai atic 18. apo oti blepw exoun diafora sta pixel h men prwth exei 752x582 kai h deuterh 1390x1040 kai sto megethos twn psyfidwn h men prwth 8,3x8,3 enw h deuteri exei 6,45x6,45 kai vevaia stis diastaseis tou ccd to opoio einai gia thn men prwth 7,4 x 5,95 kai gia thn deuteri 10,2 x 8,3. Axizi kapoios na xodepsi akribws ta diplasia xrhmata gia thn 18ara? h diafores pou exoun einai toso megales pou na pei kaneis oti kalytera na perimenw gia na parw thn 18ara apo oti na parw twra thn 16ara? Ti rolo paizei h megaliteri diastasi tou ccd?

Εγώ θα πρότεινα αν μπορεί κανείς να ελέγξει την περιοχή πριν από μένα, την λίμνη του Λάδωνα. Δεν υπάρχει χωριό ΠΑΝΩ στην λίμνη και η λίμνη προσφέρει άπλα. Τα χωριά βρίσκονται λίγο πριν και λίγο μετά την λίμνη. Πάλι βέβαια θα πρέπει να ανέβουμε σε ένα ψηλότερο σημείο. tha symfwnisw mazi sou mhna exei kapoia polu omorfa platwmata epanw apo thn limni.. apla exw na paw panw apo dyo xronia kai den xerw se ti katastash einai pleon...

mhna sto xwrio dafni ston 111 meta to levidi kai tin diastaurosh me vitina exei ekseretika merh. Ean theleis pigene kai rwta se mia vash rafting pou exei ekei konta ston ladwna potamo. ta paidia ta gnwrizw kai sigoura tha kseroun na sou poun merh skoteina syn to gegonos oti exoun kapoion ksenona pou tha mporouse na filoksenisei mia parea parathrhtwn syn to oti tha mporousate na asxolithitai kai me alles athlopaidies kata tin diarkeia thw hmeras...

flashy egw sthn paro eimai ena lepto mprosta 04.43....