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Spiro, an kaneis kserei tis diadikasies den exei tipota na fobithei apo to teloneio... Ostoso, den proteino se kapoion na agorasei kati pou antiprosopeuetai edo kateuthian apo USA (synithos den mporei logo tis politikis ton etairion), ostoso se oti afora agora apo antiprosopo se alli xora tis europis vs agora kateuthian apo USA, einai arketa pio symferousa oikonomikos. Oso gia tis promithies to 10%-15% einai i orati promithia, diladi auto pou elega prin: "fixaretai ligo pio pano apo tin timi ektelonismou" (an to epernes kateuthian). Ostoso, o antiprosopos den agorazei stin timi lianikis tou USA, opote exei megalitero perithorio kerdous... Auto den simainei oti o antiprosopos mporei na kanei poly kaliteri timi, giati an poulaei me 5-10% kedros tha kleisei!! An tora syzitame tin timi ton tileskopion stin Europi, nai einai akriba se sxesi me to ti plironei o amerikanos gia antistoixo organo kai eidika an laboume ypopsi to eisodima tou amerikanou -diladi tin pragmatiki epibarinsi gia to portofoli tou... Kai auto logo tou gegonotos oti malame gia eisagomena proionta apo USA. To problima einai oti den yparxei mia europaiki etairia san tis MEADE or CELESTRON... Oi liges Europaikes etairies epikentronontai stin kataskeui organon ypsilis poiotitas me antistoixes times. Auto giati, panta stin Europi milagame gia liga kommatia, mia pou i Europaiki agora den itan enopoiimeni mexri proteinos, eno den yparxei kai i antistoixi agorastiki dynami stin safestata pio mikri koinotita erasitexnon. Petros

Geia sou Dimitri!!! Palies kales epoxes, me orama gia tin elliniki erasitexniki astronomia, pou dystixos xathike entelos prosfata... Me ti asxolise tora? Tin ereuna gia supernova pou itheles na kaneis tote tin proxorises katholou? Petros!

H Agglia exei teloniaki syndesi, opote den yparxoun dasmoi, aplos i pliromi prepei na ginei se lires... Synithos den symferei na parageilei kaneis apo antiprosopo an mporei na kanei kateutheian paragelia o idios, giati oi dasmoi plironontai otan eisagei o antiprosopos kai epipleon plironeis kai tin promitheia tou antiprosopou (30% typika)... Megales etairies opos i MEADE ostoso poloun megales posotites opote i timi polisis ston antiprosopo einai poly xamiloteri kai tote i lianiki timi fixarete elaxista pano apo to kostos eisagogis! Gia tis perisoteres amerikanikes etairies oi times polisis se oli tin Europi kathorizontai oi idies kai prin 2-3 xronia briskotan me basi ton kanona 1$=1£, tora ta pragmata eginan xeirotera kai 1$=1,2£ peripou... Gia to an autes oi times einai yperbolikes opos kathorizontai, nai symfono, oti einai. Ostoso to poso ton 1500Euro pou anafereis den prepei na to theoreis akribo tileskopio! Kai pote den prokeitai na deite poly xamiloteres times giati i kataskeui optikon poiotitas den ginetai ex oloklirou me methodous mazikis paragogis, eno pernei poly xrono kai epipleon i opoiadipote paragogi tha einai mikri (liga komatia)... Petros

Mia ekpliktiki eikona tou Ikeya-Zhang dipla sto galaxia tis Andromedas (M31) mporeitai na deite edo: http://www.bellatrixobservatory.org/picture.html kai sto original site tou astrofotografou: http://www.astrostudio.at/defaultIE.htm O komitis tora fainetai kalytera ston proino ourano (kata tis 5:30-6:00am), konta stin Kassiopia. Logika prepei na einai oratos kai apo tin Athina me kyalia -kai isos kai me gymno ofthalmo (3.5mag)! Petros [ 09 Απριλίου 2002: Το μήνυμα τροποποιήθηκε από: petrosccd ]

rama, Genika oi erasitexnes astronomoi xorizontai se dio katigories: autous pou kanoun paratirisi gia kathara psyxagogikous logous, kai autous pou kanoun systimatiki paratirisiaki douleia analogis morfis me tous epagkelmaties. H ekfrasi "erasitexnis astronomos" ousiastika apodidei to deutero group to opoio exei kai safi istoriki synexia kai paradosi... To proto pou syxna apokaleitai "stargazers" einai poly pio prosfato. Nomizo oti i diafora einai emfaneis metaksi tous: to deutero group kanei paratiriseis pou mporoun na exoun epistimoniko endiaferon kai synepos symbalei sti gnosi mas gia ton kosmo! Me auto den thelo na tromakso kanenan... To antitheto, tetoies paratiriseis mporoun na ginoun kai xoris idiaitero eksoplismo, ostoso ta ereunitika pedia opou mporei kaneis na sumbalei etsi einai poly periorismena. Me kalo eksoplismo omos o erasitexneis mporei na kanei ousiastikes paratiriseis se pollous tomeis... Tetoia douleia kanoun arketoi erasitexnes sto eksoteriko, opos px: Don Parker, Tim Puckett, Tomas Dobbins, Roy Tucker, klp... Stin Ellada dystixos polloi ligoi kanoun tetoia douleia, gia logous pou den einai tis stigmis na analysoume... An kapoios endiaferetai ti mporei na kanei me to tileskopio pou diathetei (i me gymno ofthalmo) as mou steilei email: peter_ccd@hotmail.com Petros

File rama (onoma?), To thema tou post mou den itan i "enosi"... Ostoso, oi logoi pou o protos sylogos dialithike kai pou i "enosi" einai epi 3-4 xronia (isos kai parapano exo xasei to metrima) se diadikasia "epanidrisis" pou les einai alloi... (den tha ithela na sxoliaso edo). Bebaia mpainei kai to thema pos epanidrieis kati pou den exei idrithei akarxas, alla as to afysoume... Epipleon, oi eksormiseis pou anafereis, profanos den theorountai sobari paratirisi! To erotima einai an kaneis kanei, or endiaferetai na kanei sobari douleia... Petros

File rama, Oxi enow poioi apo esas kanoun, or endiaferontai gia ousiastikes paratiriseis, oste na syzitisoume sxetika... Den psaxno link! Kai poso malista tis "Elinikis Astronomikis Enosis", pou eixa tin atyxia na emplekto san "idritiko" melos! Ta eisagogika ofeilontai sto gegonos oti akoma, meta apo tosa xronia, den einai oute kan typika syllogos... Oso gia paratiriseis ousiastikes, maliase i glossa mou ekei pano alla apotelesma miden! Gia ousiastikes paratiriseis xreiazetai kalos eksoplismos, alla poly perisotero thelisi! Eno yparxoun polla pou mporoun na ginoun me mikra tileskopia (or me gymno ofthalmo) kaneis den kanei tipota... Petros

Geia se olous! Apo tis syzitiseis pou kanetai diapistono oti yparxoun arketa atoma me tileskopia kai kalo eksoplismo... Posoi asxolountai me sobari paratirisi? Or, yparxoun atoma pou tha ithelan na asxolithoun me sobari paratirisi? (sobari paratirisi enow, paratirisi pou den ginetai me kathara psyxagogiko xaraktira -stargazing diladi, or astrofotografisi) Filika, Petros