My 4.8 Nagler works just fine in the 6-inch f/15 system. Naturally the seeing conditions need to be good. I initially concluded that the 4.8 Nagler, delivering 476.25x, would simply be empty magnification. But I have had times where it works and I actually enjoy the image delivered at that mognification. It lacks a bit of that image crispness that a lower magification delivers, but it is well worth the view. The doublet was made in 1972 by A. Jaegers. I may simply pick up one these 3.7's just for the fun of it and see what it will do in my 10-inch f/6.3 SCT. Of course with a focal reducer it can drop down to f/4.5 but I really don't want to start adding more glass to the light path-but it might prove to be interesting. As to Al's eyepieces, my 13mm Nagler that I picked up back in 1984 is my favorite, or one of my favorites. That is a great eyepiece, even though you get the kidney bean effect in it if your eye isn't exactly centered. Of course that remedied by a later model having an extra element added. The older Wide Filed series (65-degrees) are great. I really love the 24mm and the 19mm is nice too. The 32, 40 and 55mm Plossl's are nice in addition. I think I need to buy some newer designs just to see what they do. It should warrant getting a big light bucket too. Just recalled. Some time back I purchased a Celestron 2" 18mm Orthoscopic. When used on the refractor it is just great. The crispness in the image is just there-oh yeah! -Fred